Episode 544: Casey Newton and Kevin Roose

Published: Aug. 2, 2023, 6:20 p.m.

b"Casey Newton writes the\\xa0Platformer\\xa0newsletter. Kevin Roose is a technology columnist for\\xa0The New York Times. Together they co-host the podcast\\xa0Hard Fork.\\nCN: \\u201cPeople actually like to be a little bit confused. They like listening to things where people are talking about things they don\\u2019t quite understand, which was very counterintuitive to me. I think a lot of editor-types would scoff at, but I\\u2019ve come around.\\u201d\\nKR: \\u201cWe can revisit subjects and we do. We can change our minds. Print pieces feel so permanent, they feel so definitive. Podcasts, we can just sort of say, \\u2018I don't know what to make of this, ask me again in a month.\\u2019\\u201d\\nShow notes:\\n\\n@CaseyNewton\\n\\n@kevinroose\\n\\ncnewton.org\\n\\nkevinroose.com\\n\\nNewton on Longform\\n\\nRoose on Longform\\n\\nLongorm Podcast #337: Casey Newton\\n\\nLongform Podcast #81: Kevin Roose\\n\\nNewton and Roose\\u2019s\\xa0Hard Fork\\xa0archive\\n\\nNewton\\u2019s\\xa0Platformer\\xa0archive\\n\\nRoose\\u2019s\\xa0New York Times\\xa0archive\\n\\n3:00\\xa0Newton\\u2019s\\xa0Verge\\xa0archive\\n\\n\\n7:00\\xa0\\u201cElon\\u2019s X Machina, Crypto Orbs, and a Visit to Google\\u2019s Robot Lab\\u201d\\xa0(Newton and Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 July 2023)\\n\\n12:00\\xa0Huberman Lab\\xa0(Andrew Huberman \\u2022 Huberman Lab \\u2022 2023)\\n\\n14:00\\xa0Rabbit Hole\\xa0(Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 2020)\\n\\n25:00\\xa0Futureproof\\xa0(Roose \\u2022 Random House \\u2022 2022)\\n\\n29:00\\xa0\\u201cChatGPT Transforms a Classroom and Is \\u2018M3GAN\\u2019 Real?\\u201d\\xa0(Newton and Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 Jan 2023)\\n\\n29:00\\xa0\\u201cDario Amodei, C.E.O. of Anthropic, on the Paradoxes of A.I. Safety and Netflix\\u2019s \\u2018Deep Fake Love Story\\u2019\\u201d\\xa0(Newton and Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 July 2023)\\n\\n31:00\\xa0\\u201cGoogle C.E.O. Sundar Pichai on Bard, A.I. \\u2018Whiplash\\u2019 and Competing with ChatGPT\\u201d\\xa0(Newton and Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 March 2023)\\n\\n31:00\\xa0\\u201cMr. Altman Goes to Washington and Casey Goes on This American Life\\u201d\\xa0(Newton and Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 May 2023)\\n\\n44:00\\xa0\\u201cAided by A.I. Language Models, Google\\u2019s Robots Are Getting Smart\\u201d\\xa0(Roose \\u2022 New York Times \\u2022 July 2023)\\n\\n\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices"