Episode 469: George Saunders
b'George Saunders is the author of eleven books. His latest is\\xa0A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life.\\n\\u201dI really have so much affection for being alive. I really enjoy it. And yet, I\\u2019m a little negative minded in a lot of ways too, like I really think things tend to be fucked up. ... To get that on the page\\u2014to sufficiently praise the loveliness of the world without being a sap, and also lacerate the world for being so goddamn mean\\u2014to do those in the same story would be a great aspiration. And I haven\\u2019t gotten there yet.\\u201d\\nShow notes:\\n\\ngeorgesaundersbooks.com\\n\\nSaunders on Longform\\n\\n\\nSaunders on the Longform Podcast\\xa0(Jan 2014)\\n\\nSaunders\'\\xa0Story Club\\xa0newsletter\\n\\n16:00\\xa0"First Thohts on Reviision"\\xa0(Story Club \\u2022 Dec 2021)\\n\\n28:00\\xa0"The Great Divider"\\xa0(GQ \\u2022 Jan 2007)\\n\\n48:00\\xa0"Sea Oak"\\xa0(New Yorker \\u2022 Dec 1998)\\n\\n\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'