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b'Megha Rajagopalan is a senior correspondent for\\xa0Buzzfeed News. She won a Pulitzer for her coverage of the Xinjiang detention camps.\\u201cIt\\u2019s not so much that I talk to [the Chinese government] to get information. It\\u2019s more that I talk to them to see how they think about things and what\\u2019s important to them and what\\u2019s their view of the world. \\u2026 There are so many journalists that have been thrown out of China, so there\\u2019s very few people that are able to actually have those conversations. And in the U.S., there are these seismic decisions being made about China policy, and if you don\\u2019t talk to the people that run the country, it\\u2019s a problem.\\u201d\\n\\nThanks to\\xa0Mailchimp\\xa0for sponsoring this week\'s episode.\\n\\nShow notes:\\n@meghara\\nRajagopalan on Longform\\nRajagopalan\'s\\xa0Buzzfeed News\\xa0archive\\n21:00\\xa0"This Is What A 21st-Century Police State Really Looks Like"\\xa0(Buzzfeed News \\u2022 Oct 2017)\\n35:00\\xa0Rajagopalan\\u2019s Pulitzer-winning reporting with Alison Killing and Christo Buschek\\n41:00\\xa0"China Secretly Built A Vast New Infrastructure To Imprison Muslims (Part 1)"\\xa0(Alison Killing, Christo Buschek, Megha Rajagopalan \\u2022 Buzzfeed News \\u2022 Aug 2020)\\n41:00\\xa0"What They Saw: Ex-Prisoners Detail The Horrors Of China\'s Detention Camps (Part 2)"\\xa0(Alison Killing, Megha Rajagopalan \\u2022 Buzzfeed News \\u2022 Aug 2020)\\n41:00\\xa0"Inside a Xinjiang Detention Camp (Part 3)"\\xa0(Alison Killing, Megha Rajagopalan \\u2022 Buzzfeed News \\u2022 Dec 2020)\\n41:00\\xa0"We Found The Factories Inside China\\u2019s Mass Internment Camps (Part 4)"\\xa0(Alison Killing, Megha Rajagopalan \\u2022 Buzzfeed News \\u2022 Dec 2020)\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'