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b'Katherine Eban is an investigative journalist and contributor to\\xa0Vanity Fair. Her latest article is\\xa0\\u201dThe Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19\\u2019s Origins.\\u201d\\u201dYou can\'t make a correction unless you know why something happened. So imagine\\u2014if this is a lab leak\\u2014the earth shattering consequences for virology. For the science community, for how research is done, for how research is regulated. Or if it is a zoonotic origin, we have to know how our human incursion into wild spaces could be unleashing these viruses. Because COVID-19 is one thing, but we\'re going to be looking at COVID-25 and COVID-34. We have to know what caused this.\\u201d\\n\\nThanks to\\xa0Mailchimp\\xa0for sponsoring this week\'s episode.\\n\\nShow notes:\\n@KatherineEban\\nkatherineeban.com\\nEban on Longform\\nEban on Longform Podcast\\n00:00\\xa0Bottle of Lies: The Inside Story of the Generic Drug Boom\\xa0(Ecco \\u2022 2019)\\n00:00\\xa0"The Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19\\u2019s Origins"\\xa0(Vanity Fair \\u2022 Jun 2021)\\n01:00\\xa0Nicholson Baker on Longform Podcast\\n01:00\\xa0"The Lab-Leak Hypothesis"\\xa0(Nicholson Baker \\u2022 New York Magazine \\u2022 Jan 2021)\\n03:00\\xa0"The Plague Fighters: Stopping the Next Pandemic Before It Begins "\\xa0(Evan Ratliff \\u2022 Wired \\u2022 Apr 2007)\\n12:00\\xa0@TheSeeker268\\n14:00\\xa0Eban\'s\\xa0Vanity Fair\\xa0archive\\n16:00\\xa0Eban\\u2019s Twitter thread\\n26:00\\xa0Alina Chan on Twitter\\n32:00\\xa0"Statement in support of the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China combatting COVID-19"\\xa0(Peter Daszak and many others \\u2022 The Lancet \\u2022 Feb 2020)\\n34:00\\xa0"Origin of Covid \\u2014 Following the Clues"\\xa0(Nicholas Wade \\u2022 Medium \\u2022 May 2021)\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'