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James Verini is a contributing writer at The New York Times Magazine and National Geographic. His new book is They Will Have to Die Now: Mosul and the Fall of the Caliphate.\n\n\u201cWar is mostly down time. War is mostly waiting around for something to happen.\u201d\n\nThanks to Mailchimp, Pitt Writers, and "Couples Therapy" for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n\n\njamesverini.com\n\n\nVerini's archive on Longform\n\n\nLongform Podcast #147: James Verini\n\n\n[4:19] They Will Have to Die Now: Mosul and the Fall of the Caliphate (W.W. Norton \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[12:12] \u201cThe Prosecutor and the President\u201d (The New York Times Magazine \u2022 2016)\n\n\n[37:11] Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices