Episode 352: Jenny Odell

Published: July 24, 2019, 3:18 p.m.

b"Jenny Odell is a multidisciplinary artist and the author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy.\\n\\n\\n\\n\\u201cI\\u2019ve noticed that the times I\\u2019m extra susceptible to being on social media is when I am feeling personally insecure or when I\\u2019m dealing with existential dread. That within itself is not part of the attention economy\\u2014that\\u2019s just a human being having feelings and reacting to things. For me, it\\u2019s a question of like, \\u2018What do I do with that?\\u2019 I can either feed it back into the attention economy and actually get more of it back\\u2014more anxiety or more existential dread\\u2014or I can go in this other direction and spend time alone or with people who care about the same things. Those are places where I can bring my feelings and they won\\u2019t destroy me.\\u201d\\n\\n\\n\\nThanks to Mailchimp, Substack, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\\n\\n\\n@the_jennitaur\\n\\n\\njennyodell.com\\n\\n\\nJenny Odell on Longform\\n\\n\\n[00:49] How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy (Melville House \\u2022 2019)\\n\\n\\n[00:51] \\u201dHow To Do Nothing\\u201d transcript of keynote talk (Medium \\u2022 2017)\\n\\n\\n[01:10] \\u201cA Business With No End\\u201d (New York Times \\u2022 2018)\\n\\n\\n[02:30] Evan Ratliff on Cointalk\\n\\n\\n[02:42] The Mastermind: Drugs. Empire. Murder. Betrayal. (Evan Ratliff \\u2022 Random House \\u2022 2019)\\n\\n\\n[03:18] \\u201cThere\\u2019s No Such Thing As A Free Watch\\u201d (Museum of Capitalism \\u2022 2017)\\n\\n\\n[05:05] The Bureau of Suspended Objects\\n\\n\\n[16:55] Gordon Hempton\\u2019s \\u201cDesert Thunder\\u201d\\n\\n\\n[29:27] Radical Technologies: The Design of Everyday Life (Adam Greenfield \\u2022 Verso \\u2022 2017)\\n\\n\\n[37:32] Braiding Sweetgrass (Robin Wall Kimmerer \\u2022 Milkweed Editions \\u2022 2015)\\n\\n\\n[39:25] \\u201cNotes of a Bioregional Interloper\\u201d (SFMOMA \\u2022 2017)\\n\\n\\n[53:30] Mark Lombardi\\u2019s drawings\\n\\n\\n[56:40] \\u201cOn How to Grow an Idea\\u201d (Creative Independent \\u2022 2018)\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices"