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Jenny Odell is a multidisciplinary artist and the author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy.\n\n\n\n\u201cI\u2019ve noticed that the times I\u2019m extra susceptible to being on social media is when I am feeling personally insecure or when I\u2019m dealing with existential dread. That within itself is not part of the attention economy\u2014that\u2019s just a human being having feelings and reacting to things. For me, it\u2019s a question of like, \u2018What do I do with that?\u2019 I can either feed it back into the attention economy and actually get more of it back\u2014more anxiety or more existential dread\u2014or I can go in this other direction and spend time alone or with people who care about the same things. Those are places where I can bring my feelings and they won\u2019t destroy me.\u201d\n\n\n\nThanks to Mailchimp, Substack, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n@the_jennitaur\n\n\njennyodell.com\n\n\nJenny Odell on Longform\n\n\n[00:49] How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy (Melville House \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[00:51] \u201dHow To Do Nothing\u201d transcript of keynote talk (Medium \u2022 2017)\n\n\n[01:10] \u201cA Business With No End\u201d (New York Times \u2022 2018)\n\n\n[02:30] Evan Ratliff on Cointalk\n\n\n[02:42] The Mastermind: Drugs. Empire. Murder. Betrayal. (Evan Ratliff \u2022 Random House \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[03:18] \u201cThere\u2019s No Such Thing As A Free Watch\u201d (Museum of Capitalism \u2022 2017)\n\n\n[05:05] The Bureau of Suspended Objects\n\n\n[16:55] Gordon Hempton\u2019s \u201cDesert Thunder\u201d\n\n\n[29:27] Radical Technologies: The Design of Everyday Life (Adam Greenfield \u2022 Verso \u2022 2017)\n\n\n[37:32] Braiding Sweetgrass (Robin Wall Kimmerer \u2022 Milkweed Editions \u2022 2015)\n\n\n[39:25] \u201cNotes of a Bioregional Interloper\u201d (SFMOMA \u2022 2017)\n\n\n[53:30] Mark Lombardi\u2019s drawings\n\n\n[56:40] \u201cOn How to Grow an Idea\u201d (Creative Independent \u2022 2018)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices