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Josh Levin is the national editor at Slate. He is the host of the podcast Hang Up and Listen and the author of The Queen: The Forgotten Life Behind an American Myth.\n\n\n\n\u201cI think it\u2019s a strength to make a thing, one that people might have thought was familiar, feel strange. And reminding people \u2014in general, in life\u2014that you don\u2019t really know as much as you think you know. I think that carries over into any kind of storytelling.\u201d\n\n\n\nThanks to Mailchimp, Squarespace, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n\n\n@josh_levin\n\n\nLevin on Longform\n\n\n[01:48] The Queen: The Forgotten Life Behind an American Myth (Little, Brown and Company \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[01:52] \u201cThe Welfare Queen\u201d (Slate \u2022 2013)\n\n\n[02:47] The Mastermind: Drugs. Empire. Murder. Betrayal. (Evan Ratliff \u2022 Random House \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[03:25] Levin\u2019s Archive at Slate\n\n\n[04:55] Other Magazines Column\n\n\n[05:03] Today\u2019s Papers\n\n\n[07:25] \u201cLittle League Bullies\u201d (Slate \u2022 2007)\n\n\n[10:38] Dahlia Lithwick at Slate\n\n\n[12:22] Paul Ford on the Longform Podcast\n\n\n[13:00] Hang Up And Listen\n\n\n[13:17] Slow Burn\n\n\n[14:01] The Queen podcast\n\n\n[14:33] Jet Article on Linda Taylor (Jet \u2022 1974) [pdf]\n\n\n[42:08] \u201dDispatches From the R.Kelly Trial\u201d (Slate \u2022 2008)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices