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David Epstein has reported for ProPublica, Sports Illustrated, and This American Life. His new book is Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World.\n\n\n\n\u201cYou can\u2019t just introspect or take a personality quiz and know what you\u2019re good at or interested in. You actually have to try stuff and then reflect on it. That\u2019s how you learn about yourself\u2014otherwise, your insight into yourself is constrained by your roster of experiences.\u201d\n\nThanks to MailChimp, Time Sensitive, Read This Summer, The TED Interview, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode.\n\n\n\n\n@DavidEpstein\n\n\ndavidepstein.com\n\n\nEpstein on Longform\n\n\n[02:20] Epstein\u2019s Sports Illustrated archive\n\n\n[02:21] Epstein\u2019s ProPublica Archive\n\n\n[02:26] The Sports Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance (Portfolio \u2022 2014)\n\n\n[02:29] Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World (Riverhead Books \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[03:15] Longform Podcast #282: Jenna Wortham\n\n\n[05:40] Gladwell and Epstein Conversation\n\n\n[07:58] Gladwell and Epstein Return\n\n\n[08:14] Outliers: The Story of Success (Malcolm Gladwell \u2022 Back Bay Books \u2022 2011)\n\n\n[08:40] The Talent Code: Greatness Isn\u2019t Born. It\u2019s Grown. Here\u2019s How. (Daniel Coyle \u2022 Bantam \u2022 2009)\n\n\n[10:51] Bounce: The Myth of Talent and the Power of Practice (Matthew Syed \u2022 Fourth Estate \u2022 2010)\n\n\n[12:10] NPR review of Range\n\n\n[16:10] The Mastermind: Drugs. Empire. Murder. Betrayal (Evan Ratliff \u2022 Random House \u2022 2019)\n\n\n[28:21] Drunk Tank Pink: And Other Unexpected Forces That Shape How We Think, Feel, and Behave (Adam Alter \u2022 Penguin Books \u2022 2014)\n\n\n[28:31] Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked (Adam Alter \u2022 Penguin Press \u2022 2017)\n\n\n[32:02] Epstein\u2019s Science Research Project Abstract\n\n\n[33:33] Epstein\u2019s Daily News archive\n\n\n[38:47] "Birds and Frogs" (Freeman Dyson \u2022 American Mathematical Society \u2022 2009) [pdf]\n\n\n[42:11] "Bright Future" (Sports Illustrated \u2022 2007)\n\n\n[45:29] Working Identity: Unconventional Strategies for Reinventing Your Career (Herminia Ibarra \u2022 Harvard Business School Press \u2022 2004)\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices