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b'Adam Davidson is a staff writer at The New Yorker.\\n\\n\\u201cI am as shocked this moment that Trump was elected as I was the moment he was elected. That fundamental state of shock. It\\u2019s like there\\u2019s a pile of putrid, rotting human feces on a table and like six of the people around the table are like, \\u2018That is disgusting.\\u2019 And four are like \\u2018Oh it\\u2019s so delicious. Oh, I love it. It\\u2019s delicious.\\u2019 And I keep saying, \\u2018Well, why do you like it?\\u2019 ... Trump is not a very interesting person in my mind. He\\u2019s a very simple, one of the most simple public figures ever. And his business is complex that in that it\\u2019s lots of people doing lots of things, but the fundamental nature of it is not that mysterious. So, it is a challenge to keep me engaged, but I\\u2019m engaged. And then as a citizen, I\\u2019ve never been more engaged.\\u201d\\n\\nThanks to MailChimp for sponsoring this week\'s episode.\\n@adamdavidson\\n[0:21] Adam Davidson\'s archive at The New Yorker\\n[00:35] The Big Short (Paramount\\u2022 2015)\\n[00:43] Surprisingly Awesome podcast archive at Gimlet Media\\n[00:47] Planet Money\\n[00:51] WBEZ Chicago\\n[00:53] This American Life\\n[0:55] Adam Davidson\\u2019s archive at Harper\\u2019s\\n[01:35] "Donald Trump\\u2019s Worst Deal" (The New Yorker \\u2022 Mar 2017)\\n[04:15] "Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency" (The New Yorker \\u2022 Apr 2018)\\n[26:17] Adam Davidson\\u2019s archive at NPR\\n[31:48] Marketplace\\n[34:44] Ben Taub on Longform\\n[39:48] "Making It In America" (The Atlantic\\u2022 Jan 2012)\\n[41:42] Ira Glass\\u2019s Archive at This American Life\\n[42:37] Thriveal Podcast\\n[45:19] Zoe Chace on Longform\\n[45:35] Losers: The Road to Everyplace but the White House (Michael Lewis \\u2022 Vintage \\u2022 1998)\\n[51:13] We The Economy (Cinelan\\u2022 2015)\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'