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Reflecting on the persistence and challenge of change as a way of life and a few deep dives into very specific changes with writer, activist and community leader Jen Hatmaker.

If you enjoyed listening to my conversation this week with Jen Hatmaker and you haven\\u2019t already listened to the episode we did together in May of 2021, please check it out - it\\u2019s been one of the most listened to pods we\\u2019ve ever done and I think you\\u2019ll really enjoy it. It\\u2019s Episode #35 of Kelly Corrigan Wonders. You may also enjoy the series we did in 2021 called How Change Happens. It\\u2019s a special 10 part series l of frank conversations about suffering, compassion, willpower and tough love. (Replay of Ep 78 which originally aired on March 8, 2022)

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