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b"In the first of a two-part series, Jad and I Discuss the many ways in which terrorism like that of the Boston Marathon Bombings could prevail if only people were really inclined to kill indiscriminately.\\n\\nIn other words, there's an almost unlimited source of crowds to be found across the United States and yet they manage to go on without being killed.\\n\\nTragically the marathon was an anomaly and our hearts go out to the victims, but we consider how the state frequently uses these moments to promote wars abroad and trample civil liberties domestically.\\n\\n\\n\\nTranscript of Podcast\\n\\n[Recorded Audio]\\n\\n Speaker 1: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?\\n\\n Speaker 2: No, sir.\\n\\n Jad:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Hello, welcome to the JK podcast, an anti-authoritarian philosophical endeavor recorded in Austin, Texas.\\xa0 We draw our topics from the entire scope of the human experience with central connecting themes focused on the grand ideas of liberty, humanity, and equality.\\n\\n Kevin: The JK Podcast is hosted by Jad Davis and Kevin Ludlow.\\xa0 Welcome back to another episode.\\xa0 This week, Jad and I continue our discussion about the invention of governance.\\xa0 We discuss state control at a philosophical level and spend some time considering what slavery actually means.\\xa0 We all understand the classic definition of slavery, but in a modern American sense, what does it mean to be enslaved?\\xa0 Presumably, if we\\u2019re all forced to live in debt our entire lives, we have no way to escape the clutches of the power class.\\n\\n Jad:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Why are we living under a structure that\\u2019s built to maintain power relationships that don\\u2019t exist anymore?\\xa0\\n\\n Kevin: I think the worst part about the whole thing that you just described is that I think that \\u2013 hard to put into words \\u2013 but I think we\\u2019ve actually grayified[?] the whole slavery thing even further.\\xa0 I think if you are to \\u2013 I wasn\\u2019t alive 300 years ago \\u2013 but if you were to look 300 years back, I think it was pretty clear-cut who was a slave and who was not a slave, and clearly there are different classes of people still, but even those classes I mean, I think they were pretty - I think it was a pretty discrete stepping block.\\xa0\\n\\n I mean I think you had your illeists[Sp?] \\u2013 the people that you\\u2019re talking about who were capable of actually reading like you know, ancient Greek philosophies and things like that - and then you had your more working class, and then you had your slave class and I think the thing now though is that the reason that it would be difficult to do what you\\u2019re talking about is because we have grayed those areas so much - who's a slave now?\\xa0 Is the CEO a slave or is the \\u2013 I mean, is the CEO of the two million or a small company, like a two million dollar company - is he a slave, or is the janitor that works for him a slave, or perhaps the computer guy that slaves away all day like we do writing code - is he the slave because we clearly don't have slaves per their definition anymore.\\xa0\\n\\n But I mean you and I would both be of the mindset that certainly slavery is alive and well in this country, it's just it's taken on a different form.\\xa0 And so I think the difficulty is even if you were to try to readjust that fundamental leaning of the Constitution as far as who\\u2019s supposed be protected, I think we\\u2019re so far gone in it that I think people don't understand that they\\u2019re enslaved.\\xa0 And so if people don't understand that they\\u2019re enslaved in the first place, I think it would be challenging to get them on board with saying well, you\\u2019ve gotta convince them first that they are in some form or fashion enslaved and then even if they are like I said, at what level are you enslaved?\\xa0 If you're the CEO of a two million dollar company, you're doing well but you\\u2019re not set for life I mean, you don\\u2019t make that much money you know, a couple hundred grand maybe, and it\\u2019s completely different from say, like a Rockefeller or you know, like a Trump or what have you,"