Ep33 : When Do You Give Up on the Political Process?

Published: June 6, 2013, 12:31 a.m.

b'This week Jad introduces us to a philosophical idea he had been twirling around in his head about giving up on the political process. He essentially concludes that once you\\u2019ve discovered without question that the deck is stacked against you no matter how perfectly you play the game, why would keep playing?\\n\\nJad articulates this point quite a bit better than I just did, but that\\u2019s the gist. Of course there are no arguments from my corner.\\n\\nAlthough that\\u2019s the bulk of the show, we also transition into some thoughts on government formation and even discuss a favorite Harvard professor of mine by the name of Michael Sandel.\\n\\nMaterial from Podcast\\nLinks\\n\\nJustice with Michael Sandel\\n\\n\\nMusic\\n\\nSomething Good by Alt-J.\\n\\n\\n\\n\\nTranscript of Podcast\\n\\nKevin: Hello and welcome back to the JK Podcast, and antiauthoritarian free speech zone dedicated to the pursuit of liberty, humanity, and equality for all.\\xa0 This week, Jad introduces us to a philosophical idea he had been twirling around in his head about giving up on the political process.\\xa0 He essentially concludes that once you\\u2019ve discovered without question that the deck is stacked against you no matter how perfectly you play the game, why would you keep playing?\\xa0\\n Jad articulates this point quite a bit better than I just did, that\\u2019s the gist of it.\\xa0 Of course, there are no arguments from my corner.\\xa0 Although that\\u2019s the bulk of the show, we also transition into some thoughts on government formation, and even discuss a favorite Harvard professor of mine by the name of Michael Sandel.\\xa0 As always, the show is hosted by Jad Davis and Kevin Ludlow \\u2013 that\\u2019s me.\\xa0 So sit back and enjoy this 20 minute ride into the JK Podcast. \\n Jad:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 [?] something else that I was thinking of while I was constructing picnic [?] tables.\\xa0 The argument is when do you give up on the political process?\\xa0 Like, when do you say, \\u201cokay, this isn\\u2019t gonna work\\u201d.\\xa0 So you know that Ron Paul is saying this time around if you say you\\u2019re all in, 2012 Ron Paul, you go to your local caucus or whatever, you see to win that caucus or do whatever, and in your watching the entire republican system collapse on your guy essentially and basically \\u2013 in a certain way of thinking about it \\u2013 the entire exercise, the entire primary season, was just a concerted effort to keep Ron Paul out.\\xa0 \\n You\\u2019ve probably followed this more closely than I did, but he was finishing essentially a third in every race, right?\\xa0 He was \\u2013 usually it was like, whoever was the leader and then Mitt Romney or something \\u2013 you know, Ron Paul, or Ron Paul was second, or sometimes he won, but the joke was always that it was like, yeah, Rick Perry was first, and Newt Gingrich was third, and so and so was fourth and fifth, and like, they didn\\u2019t even mention who was second. \\n Kevin: Right.\\xa0 Right. \\n Jad:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Anyway, point being that like, if you put all of your time and effort and energy in and you go to Florida and you end up you know, getting locked out and all that sort of stuff, you could either be totally disenchanted, or you could be like, \\u201cwell look, I\\u2019ve tried as hard as I possibly can inside of the system to make it work, so clearly, this can\\u2019t happen; like, there\\u2019s no amount of extra effort I can give that\\u2019s going to accomplish this task.\\xa0 I\\u2019ve given it all I can do, I gave it you know, my heart and soul \\u2013 everyone else did too \\u2013 it\\u2019s not working, and so we\\u2019re going elsewhere.\\u201d\\xa0 \\n I kind of feel like you have the potential because you know, you have infinite energy and talent, so like, you have the potential to do that on a local scale, right?\\xa0 You wanna run for city council, or you want to \\u2013 and now we\\u2019ve got the 10/1 thing happening, so that\\u2019s gonna all be you know, city council\\u2019s gonna be up in the air.\\xa0 So \\u2013 \\n Kevin: Yeah. \\n Jad:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 So again, that\\u2019s just a core idea, but I had THC driven insight that made it more exciting.\\xa0 But I guess it was just that you also have like, the grassroots appeal to you like you know,'