Ep19 : . . . and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope

Published: March 13, 2013, 8:43 p.m.

b'This week, Tom, Kevin and I, have a relatively light-hearted chat about the brand new pope, the previous retired pope, the Jesuit order--with a sprinkle of Alex Jones--and Catholicism in general. \\n\\n\\nMaterial from Podcast\\nMusic\\n\\nTango Instrumental \\n\\n\\nReferences\\n\\nPope Francis Relations with Argentine Governments on Wikipedia\\nGuardian article cited in the podcast which has since been changed (with a note at the bottom).\\nClaims of Bergolio\'s complicity disputed in the Guardian.\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\nTranscript of Podcast\\n\\nJad: Hello, and welcome back to the JK Podcast. This week, Tom, Kevin and I have a relatively lighthearted chat about the brand new Pope, the previous retired Pope, the Jesuit order, with a sprinkle of Alex Jones, and Catholicism in general. This conversation took place on the selection of the new Pope. There has been a fair amount of discussion since then about the role of the then Cardinal Bergoglio, and the church in Argentina\'s dirty war. \\n\\nAs I note in the discussion, the awfulness of the Catholic church certainly does not hinge on the degree of their complicity in this one instance. So I\'ve let the conversation stay in with minimum edits and caveats, though we will have the links in the show notes for anyone who\'s interested in more information.\\n\\nKevin: Trying to come up with a good joke for Facebook all day about the new Pope molesting me but, they all just seemed kind of trivial when I was - when I typed them out, so - \\n\\nJad: I do have some good gossip about the Pope.\\n\\nKevin: Oh, give it to me.\\n\\nJad: Apparently, during the Pinochet regime in the late 70\'s, the U.N. sent a human rights commissioner or something to go check out the whole - people being thrown out of airplanes and all that crap.\\n\\nKevin: Right.\\n\\nJad: And the - whatever his name is, George, I think - hid a bunch of the people who were involved in his shallay off in the country somewhere until they left.\\n\\nKevin: Oh, sweet.\\n\\nTom: Yeah, so, let\'s see - from the last - what did we do, do we give this guy more points, or less points? I mean, the last guy was a fucking Nazi, an actual Nazi.\\n\\nJad: Yeah.\\n\\nTom: This guy, accomplice to - I don\'t know where this one sits.\\n\\nJad: Yeah. I mean, the Nazi thing is just - I mean that\'s like, right off the bat you\'re at a disadvantage there. And I guess the other guy did it as a clergyman you know, he was already a Cardinal, or a whatever - Bishop or something - so he was [?] as an adult.\\n\\nKevin: Interesting.\\n\\nJad: Yeah, which doesn\'t have the same ring as Nazi, but [?] - \\n\\nKevin: It really doesn\'t. Interesting how many hundreds of years it takes for that term to sound cool again.\\n\\nJad: Funny, I was just like, I guess they don\'t have anybody who\'s like, not something and they\'re just like, "well, we went with a guy who was the Nazi because at least he wasn\'t a open child rapist", or something. I mean like, could you not find the guy who\'s not a child rapist, and not a Nazi, and not a Pinochet sympathizer, and like - \\n\\nTom: So this guy\'s on the list, and he\'s a Nazi, and he\'s not at the bottom of the list.\\n\\nJad: Right - exactly. Nazi is the winner.\\n\\nTom: In fact, he\'s at the top of the list.\\n\\nJad: And actually, it\'s the last time apparently this guy was right below Ratzinger, so I guess they ranked it for us. They think that child Nazi is worse than adult Pinochet, I guess.\\n\\nKevin: This is the scale of Popes.\\n\\nJad: Yeah.\\n\\nKevin: Well you\'ve gotta - \\n\\nTom: These guys are still walking around in those ridiculous outfits -\\n\\nKevin: Man, I love those things.\\n\\nTom: - it\'s just amazing.\\n\\nKevin: That\'s pretty funny, I did not know that. Where\'d you come across that bit of information?\\n\\nJad: The internet.\\n\\nTom: Made it up.\\n\\nJad: Yeah, I made it up.\\n\\nKevin: No, but I mean is it spreading now - the Nazi thing was pretty big with what\'s his face, I mean that definitely broke on pretty major news outlets, I think.\\n\\nJad: Yeah. I mean,'