Ep10 : Forcing Morality on a Society

Published: Dec. 19, 2012, 5:38 p.m.

b'This week\'s episode marks the longest recording we\'ve released to date in our reasonably short catalog. We tried trimming it down it bit, but there was just too much juicy discussion to ignore. Hopefully everyone gets their money\'s worth.\\n\\nOur topic for the week centers around the idea of forcing morality onto others within a society. We explore various hypothetical ideas such as how a government might form from an isolated group of people, how roles of leadership would surface, and what the driving forces would be behind the desire for collective participation. We also spend some time pondering whether or not a practical solution is necessary to every problem we encounter. Slavery for example: were 750,000 lives really necessary to address this problem, or were there other ways? \\n \\nMaterial from Podcast\\nMusic\\n\\nStarving Streets by Plain Jane Automobile\\n\\n\\n\\n\\nTranscript of Podcast\\n\\nKevin: Hello, and welcome back to another episode of the JK Podcast, a quaint little place on the internet where we explore the grand ideas of liberty, humanity, and equality amongst other parts of the human experience. This week\'s episode marks the longest recording we\'ve released to date in our reasonably short catalog. We tried trimming it down a bit, but there was just too much juicy discussion to ignore. Hopefully, everyone gets their money\'s worth. \\n\\n Our topic for the week centers around the idea of forcing morality onto others within a society. We explore various hypothetical ideas such as how a government might form from an isolated group of people, how roles of leadership would surface, and what the driving forces would be behind the desire for the collective participation in the group. \\n\\n We also spend some time pondering whether or not a practical solution is necessary to every problem we encounter. Slavery for example, were 750,000 really necessary to address this problem, or were there other ways? There\'s quite a handful to take in and we certainly hope you enjoy every moment. I\'m Kevin Ludlow. The other voice you\'ll hear is Jad Davis. Welcome back to the show. \\n\\nJad: There\'s a show that - it kind of drives me nuts actually, but it\'s not our dynamic at all - which is good - but it\'s a good show. It\'s called Free Talk Live, and it\'s kind of crazy. It\'s on you know, 500 radio stations Nationwide - \\n\\nKevin: Okay.\\n\\nJad: But the guy who runs the show is an anarchist, you know, like a real anarchist - like a non-violent - just anti-authoritarian.\\n\\nKevin: Right. \\n\\nJad: He is sort of the show engineer - the techie guy - he runs it out of his own house - \\n\\nKevin: Okay. \\n\\nJad: - and then they just kind of built up syndication over the years. The other guy he does the show with though is this kind of wheedling statist guy. He just always believes that there\'s some you know - this is also your position, but I\'m not trying - \\n\\nKevin: No, no, no. \\n\\nJad: - to play the two of you, but anyway, so they get in these long, huge fights like about every 10 or 20 episodes or so, and they actually get genuinely mad at each other you know, and he\'ll be like, "fine, Mark, that\'s fine. Next point, next caller", or whatever, you know? It\'s amusing anyway, and that\'s kind of our initials - for starting spots anyway. \\n\\nKevin: I guess that\'s kind of true I mean, I guess the semblance that we have is that I\'m certainly very opposed to the government - I guess I\'m of the mindset that - well, kind of going back to my all people are evil sort of thing, is that you\'re always going to have people who are seeking power, and as a result of that you\'re always going to have some sort of governing structure that\'s in place. You don\'t have to call it a government, but there\'s always going to be somebody holding the gun because I think all people are evil. \\n\\nSo if you had a society of 10 people, one of them is going to get stronger than the other ones and say - you know,'