Ep07 : A Tale of Two Businesspeople

Published: Oct. 25, 2012, 4:13 a.m.

b'In this segment, we talk about David Siegel\'s warning to employees that he would close his business if Obama was re-selected. Kevin shares a parallel story of life in LA, where his productivity and hussle raised the ire of his acting buddies. Jad rambles on about something in between.\\n\\n\\n\\nMaterial from Podcast\\nRelated Articles\\n\\nGawker\'s take on David Siegel\'s letter. The article contains the complete original message.\\n Business week\'s post-message interview of DS\\n\\n\\nMusic\\n\\nPutting on the Ritz by Taco\\n\\n\\n\\n\\nTranscript of Podcast\\n\\nJad: Hello, and welcome to another episode in our ongoing, unfolding dialog. If you haven\'t already, you can stop by JKpod.com, where you\'ll find all the episodes we\'ve released thus far, as well as show notes and references. Kevin and I are still in are initial developmental phase of the show. While we find our bearings, we\'ll probably bounce around fairly haphazardly along our mutual interests with a reasonably consistent focus on the grand ideas of liberty, human unity, and equality. \\n\\nThis week, Kevin shares a pair of related stories - one from the mainstream media, the other, a personal anecdote. In both stories, he takes positions that have always associated with reactionary or conservative arguments. I along with most humans, have a tendency to dismiss information that I have pre-categorized as flawed or worse. \\n\\nIn this case, since I know Kevin isn\'t any more evil than he claims we all are, and because of his track record of delightful twist endings, I was inclined to hear him out. Kevin jumps right into a challenging idea - at least challenging to me - that millionaire businessmen - at least some of them - deserve the wealth that they\'ve sacrifice to build.\\n\\nKevin: You know, it\'s kind of interesting, there was - what\'s the guy\'s name - David Siegel - you may have read about him in the news over the last couple of weeks. He\'s the guy who\'s building that 90,000 square foot house, and he\'s a - you know, he\'s a multi-billionaire. Apparently he\'s one of the largest resort developers in the world. \\n\\nBasically, what he did was - maybe it was like 2 or 3 weeks ago, I don\'t remember exactly when - he sent out a letter to all of his employees - maybe like 7,000 to 10,000 employees - something like that, it\'s not insignificant, I mean, it\'s quite a few. And he sent them this letter to basically kind of explain what it\'s like to be a small business owner in the United States.\\n\\nI don\'t know that I agree with the moral sense of the letter because even though he didn\'t say it like this because it would be illegal, he essentially said don\'t vote for Obama because if Obama wins this election, I\'m shutting down the business and you\'re all going to lose your job. And so it got passed all around like, the liberal circuit, and I mean, people were furious about it, and even - like, I just kind of caught wind of it and saw the little notes on it and everything, and I was just like, man, that\'s fucked up.\\n\\nWell yesterday - just by completed coincidence before the debate - somebody sent me the e-mail - the exact same thing he sent out - and they\'re like, "hey, if you haven\'t read this, you really should", and I was like, "oh, alright". So I actually sat down and I read it, and I have to say man, like, I really, really sympathized with this guy after I read what he wrote because as a small business guy myself and somebody who\'s real interested in that, I identified with every single thing that he wrote inside of that.\\n\\nSo some of the stuff that he was saying is - essentially, he\'s like, "look, I grew up with a pretty intelligent group of friends. They all went off and they all were making money and what have you. They all made good salaries, but they were 40 hour a week sort of employees. They went to work, they did what they were supposed to do, they went home, and then all the rest of that time was theirs and my life wasn\'t like that."\\n\\nAnd he\'s like, "in my case,'