Rob Walker (@rwalk03) is a staff writer at Into the Calderón and Gabe Lezra (@ElEzrah) is a staff writer and podcaster for Managing Madrid, SB Nation’s Real Madrid blog. They are the guests on this edition of Colchonero Chat, where they join Into the Calderón site manager Jeremy Beren (@JBBeren) to break down the upcoming UEFA Super Cup in Tallinn, Estonia. The podders discuss transitional summers for both Madrid sides and where they are in their respective processes entering this match. Jeremy and Rob wonder if Atlético Madrid will emerge from preseason rust, while Gabe discusses how Real Madrid have started to adjust to life without Zinedine Zidane and Cristiano Ronaldo. The trio debates team selections, possible formations, key matchups (including Sergio Ramos versus sanity) and more — including Patreon and Twitter questions — before they give their scoreline predictions for Wednesday night. Colchonero Chat Amigos can hear Jeremy’s post-Super Cup analysis exclusively on patreon.com/colchonerochat.