The Unravelling of the Modern Middle East, with Kim Ghattas and Brian Klaas
b'It all started\\xa0in 1979. According to Kim Ghattas, the former BBC journalist and author of\\xa0Black Wave:\\xa0Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Rivalry That Unravelled the Middle East,\\xa0this was the pivotal year that kickstarted a forty-year rivalry between Iran and Saudi Arabia, plunging the Middle East in turmoil. In this episode\\xa0of the podcast, she examined this fascinating period of history with UCL political scientist Brian Klaas.\\n\\nSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared.\\n\\nSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'