Ghost Ships and Geopolitics, with Ian Urbina and Ros Urwin
b"Ian Urbina, investigative reporter of The New York Times for 17 years returns to the podcast to discuss\\xa0a new investigation, which he believes to uncover the largest known case of illegal fishing perpetrated by a single industrial fleet operating in another nation\\u2019s waters (a Chinese fleet of squid boats fishing in North Korean waters in violation of UN sanctions).\\xa0He spoke to Rosamund Urwin about the case and why dead North Koreans were washing up on the shores of Japan. They also discussed the wider themes of Ian's book\\xa0The Outlaw Ocean\\xa0which you can find out more about here:\\xa0https://www.theoutlawocean.com/\\n\\nSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared.\\n\\nSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices"