b"In this inaugural podcast, Jes\\xfas Pereira, director of Veterans Services in Holyoke (413-3225630; pereiraj@holyoke.org) and Natalia Mu\\xf1oz, news director at Holyoke Media, talk about bureaucratic obstacles for veterans, public housing, public education, the plethora of non-profits in the city that don't pay property taxes, and other topics that if we were the king of the world, would be much better."