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Gwendolyn Dolske and Rudy Salo talk with NASA engineer Tracy Drain about her work at the Jet Propulsion Lab. \\xa0We discuss the meaning of space exploration, what we can learn from engineering projects, and Rudy gets some answers about his pressing question: are there aliens?\\xa0

Watch Tracy Drain\'s Ted Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFSPr_Spu8U

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