Lis Dingjan on systems thinking as a response to the climate crisis
b'Lis Dingjan has a background in design, international development and law, and community building. She splits her time between several organisations she founded - the experience design studio Identity Division, a community centre in Cambodia, a social enterprise Nowhere and Everywhere where she advocates for climate change, biodiversity, systemic issues, waste and climate justice, and Skwoodle, a children environmental and social teaching platform.\\n\\nWith Lis, we talked about nurturing creativity, the shift to new business models, ecogrief, friendships in times of climate crisis, the population debate, space mining, and the greenwashing of Amazon.\\n\\nFull transcript and references mentioned in this episode: http://www.gosimone.org/episode-23-lis-dingjan-systems-thinking-response-to-the-climate-crisis'