030: Making Legal Services Affordable for Families with Dave Aarons

Published: Dec. 3, 2018, 7 a.m.

b'Dave Aarons is the CEO of Unbundled Attorney, which uses a network of lawyers to provide legal services to families who otherwise would not be able to afford them. A veteran of the legal industry since 2004, Dave aims to establish the first donation-based unbundled legal clinic in the United States. Dave does not think that prohibitive costs should come between the average family and solid legal representation, and that unbundled legal services are beneficial to the legal industry even if they seem new and scary.
\\nIn this episode, Dave discusses how his low-income upbringing fostered his self-reliant attitude, breaks down how unbundled legal services work, and asks you to reconsider how you engage with the social media you find comforting and secure.
\\n 
\\nShow Notes:
\\n
\\nHow did Dave\\u2019s formative years shape his beliefs toward money?
\\n
\\nRaised by single mother who had to rely on thrift and coupon shopping.
\\nDue to these circumstances he learned to appreciate everything he owned and every opportunity that came his way.
\\nRealized the need to be independent and self-reliant, especially after his bike was stolen and he had to earn the money to buy a new one.
\\n
\\n
\\nDid his circumstances lead him to become an entrepreneur?
\\n
\\nNot really, because entrepreneurship is not especially stable or secure. Became an entrepreneur more out of stubbornness and wanting to have job and personal freedom.
\\nRealized residual payment through entrepreneurship would allow him to finance his hobbies and side-ventures.
\\n
\\n
\\nWhat are unbundled legal services and why are they so important?
\\n
\\nNormally to retain legal services, you need to pay a high fee up front, which bars a lot of lower-income individuals from obtaining representation.
\\nUnbundled legal services allow you to retain an attorney for specific aspects of your case rather than for the entire case up front.
\\nAllows you to pay for the case each step at a time, accommodating for limited finances.
\\nUnbundled Attorney matches these clients to lawyers who provide these specific legal services.
\\n
\\n
\\nHow have traditional law firms responded to this service?
\\n
\\nOld school law firms are generally resistant to change, but the marketplace is forced to adapt due to the very high percentage (70-80%) of people who can\\u2019t afford traditional legal fees.
\\nIt\\u2019s a matter of finding of more open-minded attorneys.
\\n
\\n
\\nHow was Unbundled Attorney born?
\\n
\\nUsed to work for a provider that offered a variety of legal services under a single fee, but said fee was prohibitively high for the average family, even with discounts.
\\nTried increasing discount percentages, but it was still too much for many people, so gradually started tailoring options service by service for flat fees.
\\n
\\n
\\nWho has been the most impactful person in Dave\\u2019s journey to do well and achieve financial success?
\\n
\\nHis mentor, Steve Douglas
\\n
\\n
\\nWho has been the most impactful person in Dave\\u2019s drive to do good?
\\n
\\nHis mother.
\\n
\\n
\\nWhen Dave is having a bad day, what does he do to get himself out of his funk?
\\n
\\nPlays golf, writes in his journal,
\\n
\\n
\\nWhat book does Dave recommend to those seeking a more successful path in life?
\\n
\\nThe Slight Edge: Turning Simple Disciplines Into Massive Success & Happiness by Jeff Olson
\\n
\\n
\\nWhat is the best piece of advice related to success Dave has for our listeners?
\\n
\\nTake a good, hard look at what you actually get out of the casual media you consume and whether or not it\\u2019s worth the free time you have.
\\n
\\n
\\nPlaces to find Dave:
\\n
\\nUnbundled Attorney
\\n
\\n
\\n
\\n 
'