Pedro Sauer and Murilo Bustamante: May 28, 2017
b'Not one but TWO legends of jiujitsu are on the show this week. Our featured interview guest is Pedro Sauer, the legendary 8th Degree Red/Black Belt Instructor under Helio Gracie and Rickson Gracie. We cover a lot of ground, including: the first time he met Helio Gracie; his time living in Rickson Gracie\'s garage with Luis "Limao" Heredia, and how he wound up in Utah and now Virginia; How his famous fight with Mr. Utah came to be (and he tells us at least one detail about that fight that I\'d never heard before); The story of the log that Helio Gracie used to practice #chokes on, that he got from his friend Bauru, that now resides at Pedro Sauer HQ -- and the one story about Bauru he can tell in public; advice on keys to longevity in jiujitsu, whether he advises people to compete, and what true self-defense means, including how to protect your joints; why the black belt means something more than what you can do on the mat, but how you can make a difference in the community as well. He also tells us who the most underrated person in jiujitsu is, and the answer may surprise you. All this and much, much more, plus photos from the rich historical material that populates his academy.\\n\\nOur news segment features questions with another legend, Murilo Bustamante, who spoke with us after our Dirty White Belt-sponsored seminar at Toro BJJ world headquarters this week! He tells us why it\'s so important for fighters to train in the gi and shares his favorite memories from his fight career.'