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There\'s no beat more likely to get you an audience and a paycheck. It\'s trend-proof and recession-proof. Yes, true crime is freakishly popular right now, but it was never unpopular. Audiences have been showing up for gangster stories and murder stories and heist stories and scam stories steadily, for at least a hundred years, and probably a lot longer. It\'s big business.

But it\\u2019s a business that can come with a personal cost for its practitioners. How can you dig into the darkest parts of the human psyche, the most notorious crimes, and not feel guilty?

Host: Jesse Brown

Credits: Tristan Capacchione (Audio Editor and Technical Producer), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), Annette Ejiofor (Managing Editor)

Further information:

• The Human Scale: Murder, Mischief and Other Selected Mayhems
• Michael Lista\\u2019s website

Additional music by Audio Network

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