Dan and Nick take a break from the All-22 breakdowns as they are joined by former NFL cornerback Fred Smooth to dive into why Patrick Graham's defensive system and coverages are night and day from the breakdowns the team underwent with Bettcher in 2019, why having Evan Engram on the field is tipping the Giants hand, what building a winning culture is all about, and what it was like to match up against Plaxico Burress and Amani Toomer, among other topics in a wide-ranging, lively and fun interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices