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b'On Sunday the 15th August the Taliban took control of Kabul, capping an astonishingly rapid takeover of Afghanistan. In this emergency episode, Allan and Darren try to make sense of these events, analytically but also on a more personal level. How could this have happened? Was it true that the United States faced a simple choice between getting out or staying forever? What are the implications for Joe Biden\\u2019s legacy, and America\\u2019s standing in the world? And what is the Australian angle here?\\nMany thanks to Dominique Yap for audio editing and Rory Stenning for composing our theme music.\\nRelevant links \\nPaul Miller, \\u201cWhat really went wrong in Afghanistan\\u201d, The Dispatch, 29 January 2020: https://thedispatch.com/p/what-really-went-wrong-in-afghanistan \\xa0\\nCraig Whitlock, \\u201cAt war with the truth\\u201d (Afghanistan Papers\\u201d), Washington Post, 9 December 2019: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/\\xa0\\nRemarks by President Biden on the Drawdown of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan, The White House, 8 July 2021: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/08/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-drawdown-of-u-s-forces-in-afghanistan/\\nGideon Rachman, \\u201cJoe Biden\\u2019s credibility has been shredded in Afghanistan\\u201d, Financial Times, 13 August 2021: https://amp.ft.com/content/71629b28-f730-431a-b8da-a2d45387a0c2\\nDaniel Drezner, \\u201cAfghanistan\\u2019s effect on American foreign policy\\u201d, Washington Post, 15 August 2021: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/15/afghanistans-effect-american-foreign-policy/\\nABC News Sunday (NSW), 15 August 2021: https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NU2132H033S00\\nScott Morrison, \\u201cInterview with Lisa Millar, ABC News Breakfast\\u201d, Transcript, 16 August 2021: https://www.pm.gov.au/media/interview-lisa-millar-abc-news-breakfast\\nMarise Payne, \\u201cABC Radio National \\u2013 AM with Sabra Lane\\u201d, Transcript, 17 August 2021: https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/transcript/abc-radio-national-am-sabra-lane\\nList of Afghan charities: https://afghanistanrelief.carrd.co/ (see also this tweet thread from Elsa Kania (@EBKania) https://twitter.com/EBKania/status/1426677508431355912 )'