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b"In the second half of this double episode with China expert Linda Jakobson, the conversation takes a broader focus. Allan begins with Taiwan, which has been in the headlines lately: how should we think about the dangers? What would it take for Beijing to use military force to resolve the situation?\\nThe bulk of the episode is about the Australia-China relationship. How does Linda interpret the decline in bilateral relations\\u2014how much is it Australia\\u2019s \\u2018fault\\u2019 and how much is it China\\u2019s? What is the pathway forward? Linda offers her view, and then Darren and Allan provide their own assessments. Has China made up its mind about Australia? Finally, how can the West influence China and shape its choices? Is the deterrence/engagement binary a useful frame for thinking about the options?\\nAs always, we invite our listeners to email us at this address: australia.world.pod [at] gmail.com We welcome feedback, requests and suggestions. You can also contact Darren on twitter @limdarrenj\\nWe thank AIIA intern Dominique Yap for help with research and audio editing, and Rory Stenning for composing our theme music.\\nRelevant links\\nLinda Jakobson, \\xa0\\u201cWhy should Australia be concerned about\\u2026 rising tensions in the Taiwan Strait?\\u201d,\\xa0China Matters Explores\\xa0February 2021, https://chinamatters.org.au/policy-brief/policy-brief-february-2021/\\nLinda Jakobson, \\u201dWhat do we do when Beijing turns heat up on Taiwan?\\u201d Australian Financial Review, 9 February 2021: https://chinamatters.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/09.02.21-Linda-Jakobson-What-do-we-do-when-Beijing-turns-up-heat-on-Taiwan.pdf\\nAsialink podcast, \\u201cJohn Howard Reflects on the China Challenge and Trump's Legacy\\u201d, 15 Nov 2020: https://asialink.unimelb.edu.au/insights/asialink-milestones-john-howard-reflects-on-the-china-challenge-and-the-trump-legacy\\nElliott Zaagman, \\u201cA rare test for China diplomacy\\u201d, Lowy Interpreter, 18 May 2021: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/rare-test-china-diplomacy"