Ep. 40: Coronavirus; Huawei in the UK; the WTO, and UK / EU trade deals

Published: Feb. 9, 2020, 10:49 p.m.

b'Allan and Darren begin this episode with Australia\\u2019s response to the novel coronavirus, including the government\\u2019s efforts to evacuate Australians from Wuhan, the decision not to charge evacuees, and the decision to the bar entry into Australia of foreigners who have been in or travelled through China. Darren then wonders whether the variation across countries in the response to the virus\\u2014notably the hostility of Cambodia\\u2019s Prime Minister to wearing masks\\u2014is connected to China\\u2019s influence.\\nNext up is the UK\\u2019s decision to allow Huawei to participate in the country\\u2019s 5G network. Given Australia came to the opposite position, Allan grapples with the fact that he knows and trusts the judgments of individuals involved with both decisions. Darren asks whether there is much precedent for the inventions by four Australian MPs into the UK debate, or the recent piece by former Australian Signals Directorate senior official Simeon Gilding expressing disappointment with the UK\\u2019s decision. What\\u2019s the path forward now for Australia? Allan and Darren do not entirely agree.\\nThe discussion moves to trade. Now that the Trump administration has neutered the World Trade Organisation\\u2019s appellate body by blocking the appointment of new judges, what\\u2019s next for the WTO? One interesting possibility is the creation of parallel appellate structures that essentially replicate the WTO model and allow willing countries (including Australia) to prop up the WTO system while a more permanent set of reforms can (hopefully) be negotiated. Finally, Darren asks Allan about bilateral free trade agreements between Australia and both the UK and EU that are on the agenda for 2020.\\nAs always, we invite our listeners to email us at this address: australia.world.pod@gmail.com We welcome feedback, requests and suggestions. You can also contact Darren on twitter @limdarrenj\\nThanks to AIIA intern Isabel Hancock for research and audio editing, and Rory Stenning for composing our theme music.\\xa0\\nRelevant links\\nJane Norman, \\u201cCoronavirus evacuees avoid $1,000 charge for flight from China after Federal Government backs down\\u201d, ABC News, 2 February 2020: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-02/government-blames-dfat-for-coronavirus-charge-mix-up/11921846\\nHannah Beach, \\u201cQuieter response to coronavirus in countries where China holds sway\\u201d. New York Times, 2 February 2020: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/world/asia/china-coronavirus-philippines-thailand.html\\nLatika Bourke, \\u201cFour Australian MPs urge Britain to ban Huawei\\u201d, Sydney Morning Herald, 24 January 2020: https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/four-australian-mps-urge-britain-to-ban-huawei-20200124-p53u9x.html\\nSimeon Gilding, \\u201c5G choices: a pivotal moment in world affairs\\u201d, ASPI Strategist, 28 January: https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/5g-choices-a-pivotal-moment-in-world-affairs/\\nAndrew Tillett and Hans van Leeuwen, \\u201cAustralian warning over Trump\\u2019s WTO bear hug\\u201d, Australian Financial Review, 24 January 2020: https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/australian-warning-over-trump-s-wto-bear-hug-20200123-p53u4h\\nIvan Krastev and Stephen Holmes, The light that failed: A reckoning, https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308/308740/the-light-that-failed/9780241345702.html\\nScholar\\u2019s Stage, \\u201cPublic intellectuals have short shelf lives\\u2014But why?\\u201d, 29 January 2020: https://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2020/01/why-public-intellectuals-have-short.html\\nTyler Cowen, \\u201cHow public intellectuals can extend their shelf lives\\u201d, 6 February 2020: https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/02/how-public-intellectuals-can-extend-their-shelf-lives.html\\nKristen Roupenian, \\u201cCat person\\u201d, The New Yorker, 4 December 2017: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/cat-person'