Tom Eckmann, President of Kyan Software \xa0 Tom Eckmann was president and co-founder of Kyan Software. Kyan's flagship product was Kyan Pascal, an implementation of the Pascal programming language which was available for the Apple II, Atari 8-bits, and Commodore 64/128 computers. \xa0 This interview took place on May 19, 2017. \xa0 Teaser quote: "We sneered at Turbo Pascal because it was non-compliant, there were all of these un-pure features. ... He [Philippe Kahn] just looks looks at me and goes, 'Nobody gives a damn.'" \xa0 Kyan Software at AtariMania \xa0 Antic magazine review of Kyan Pascal \xa0 Kyan Pascal at Internet Archive