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b'ASV dienesti apgalvo, ka Covid-19 v\\u012brusa izplat\\u012bba aizs\\u0101kusies ar k\\u0101das \\u0136\\u012bnas laboratorijas patog\\u0113nu nopl\\u016bdi. \\u0160im apgalvojumam aizvien ir kriti\\u0137i, kas atz\\u012bst, ka visticam\\u0101k iemeslu, k\\u0101p\\u0113c \\u0161is v\\u012bruss non\\u0101ca pasaul\\u0113, t\\u0101 ar\\u012b nekad neuzzin\\u0101sim. Ta\\u010du \\u0161\\u012b nav pirm\\u0101 reize, kad izskan apgalvojumi par biodro\\u0161\\u012bbu laboratorij\\u0101s.\\xa0K\\u0101 ir apr\\u012bkotas m\\u016bsdienu laboratorijas, cik dro\\u0161as t\\u0101s ir un vai kaut kas no t\\u0101m var neman\\u0101mi "izsprukt"? Raid\\u012bjuma viesi\\xa0Latvijas biomedic\\u012bnas p\\u0113t\\u012bjumu un studiju centra vado\\u0161ie p\\u0113tnieki D\\u0101vids Fr\\u012bdmanis un Dace Pjanova.\\n\\n"Princip\\u0101 jau visam var b\\u016bt divi avoti, vai nu vi\\u0146\\u0161 ir no laboratorijas, vai vi\\u0146\\u0161 ir no dabas, nek\\u0101da cita varianta nav. Lai apgalvotu vienu vai otru, vajag b\\u016bt pamat\\u012bgiem pier\\u0101d\\u012bjumiem, tie\\u0161i t\\u0101p\\u0113c ar\\u012b daudz run\\u0101 par to, ka varb\\u016bt m\\u0113s nekad neuzzin\\u0101sim. Lai gan es person\\u012bga tam l\\u012bdz galam neticu. M\\u016bsu pasaule k\\u013c\\u016bst arvien pla\\u0161\\u0101ka, p\\u0113tnieki ielien arvien dzi\\u013c\\u0101, pat visdzi\\u013c\\u0101kajos d\\u017eung\\u013cos, dab\\u016b no turienes paraugus," v\\u0113rt\\u0113\\xa0D\\u0101vids Fr\\u012bdmanis.\\n\\n\\n"Ja vi\\u0146\\u0161 b\\u016bs no dabas n\\u0101cis, kaut kad m\\u0113s varb\\u016bt uzdursimies tam dz\\u012bvniekam. Ja vi\\u0146\\u0161 b\\u016bs n\\u0101cis no laboratorijas, tad visdr\\u012bz\\u0101k kaut kur ir ar\\u012b pieraksti par to, kur\\u0101 laboratorij\\u0101 str\\u0101d\\u0101ja, k\\u0101das bija paz\\u012bmes un k\\u0101das manipul\\u0101cijas ir veiktas. Mainoties re\\u017e\\u012bmiem, noteikumiem, \\u0161\\u012b inform\\u0101cija var nok\\u013c\\u016bt atkl\\u0101t\\u012bb\\u0101. P\\u0113c k\\u0101da laika var gad\\u012bties, ka m\\u0113s uzzin\\u0101sim, kur ir t\\u0101 probl\\u0113ma.\\n\\n\\n\\u0160\\u0137iet, visliel\\u0101k\\u0101 probl\\u0113ma, ar ko m\\u0113s visi \\u0161eit saskaramies, ir tas, ka \\u0136\\u012bna tom\\u0113r nav t\\u0101da valsts, kur\\u0101 br\\u012bva run\\u0101\\u0161ana un probl\\u0113mu atkl\\u0101ta apsprie\\u0161ana b\\u016btu visp\\u0101r\\u0113ji pie\\u0146emta. Tas vienm\\u0113r rad\\u012bs ba\\u017eas par to, vai tik vi\\u0146\\u0161 nav n\\u0101cis no laboratorijas, kas, protams, var b\\u016bt paties\\u012bba. Es to nek\\u0101d\\u0101 gad\\u012bjum\\u0101 neizsl\\u0113dzu. Tas ir viens no variantiem"\\n\\n"Nevar izsl\\u0113gt nevienu, ne otru variantu, bet man liekas, ka \\u0161obr\\u012bd tie pier\\u0101d\\u012bjumi, kas ir zin\\u0101tniski public\\u0113ti, vair\\u0101k pamatoti man liekas, ka tom\\u0113r ir dabiskas izcelsmes. \\u0160obr\\u012bd ir zi\\u0146ojums, bet ja parak\\u0146\\u0101ties nedaudz dzi\\u013c\\u0101k internet\\u0101, tad \\u012bsten\\u012bb\\u0101 vair\\u0101k par apgalvojumiem m\\u0113s neko neredzam, j\\u0101, ir kaut k\\u0101ds FIB zi\\u0146ojums, bet kas tad vi\\u0146\\u0101 ir iek\\u0161\\u0101, to jau m\\u0113s nezin\\u0101m. Un l\\u012bdz ar to \\u0161obr\\u012bd publiski pieejami dati, ka vi\\u0146\\u0161 izc\\u0113lies dabisk\\u0101 ce\\u013c\\u0101 \\u0136\\u012bn\\u0101, Uha\\u0146\\u0101.\\n\\n\\nEs vair\\u0101k \\u0161obr\\u012bd sliecos, ka tas tom\\u0113r var\\u0113tu b\\u016bt dabiskas izcelsmes. Kaut k\\u0101 mani \\u0161is skaidrojums uzrun\\u0101 vair\\u0101k," nor\\u0101da Dace Pjanova.\\n\\n\\nD\\u0101vids Fr\\u012bdmanis min, ka past\\u0101v ari\\xa0variants, ka v\\u012bruss ir hibr\\u012bdas izcelsmes: vi\\u0146\\u0161 iev\\u0101kts no dabas, k\\u0101du br\\u012bti\\u0146u ir laboratorij\\u0101 audz\\u0113ts, radies izp\\u0113tes ce\\u013c\\u0101.\\n\\n"Audz\\u0113ts, visdr\\u012bz\\u0101k, \\u0161\\u016bn\\u0101s, kas nav no t\\u0101 konkr\\u0113t\\u0101 saimnieka organisma, no kura vi\\u0146\\u0161 ir ieg\\u016bts. Audz\\u0113ts, piem\\u0113ram, uz cilv\\u0113ka \\u0161\\u016bn\\u0101m, kuras ir piem\\u0113rotas un \\u0161is v\\u012bruss sp\\u0113jis infic\\u0113t. Un tad vi\\u0146\\u0161, protams, dz\\u012bvojot \\u0161aj\\u0101 mazaj\\u0101 ekosist\\u0113m\\u0101, ir main\\u012bjies pats no sevis.\\xa0 Nav t\\u0101, ka k\\u0101ds speci\\u0101li vi\\u0146u rad\\u012bjis, un neviens nav l\\u012bdz galam sapratis, ka vi\\u0146\\u0161 var\\u0113tu b\\u016bt infekciozs un \\u0161o darb\\u012bbu rezult\\u0101t\\u0101 vi\\u0146\\u0161 var\\u0113tu nok\\u013c\\u016bst vid\\u0113. Ja tu neiev\\u0113ro visas dro\\u0161\\u012bbas regulas, tikai uz to aizdomu pamata, ka tas var\\u0113tu b\\u016bt b\\u012bstams, tad past\\u0101v varb\\u016bt\\u012bba, ka tas nejau\\u0161i nok\\u013cuvis vid\\u0113," nor\\u0101da\\xa0D\\u0101vids Fr\\u012bdmanis.\\n\\nBet cik visp\\u0101r pamatoti varam teikt, ka dz\\u012bvojam dro\\u0161\\u0101 pasaul\\u0113? Vai tas, ka apzin\\u0101ti vai nejau\\u0161i kaut kas izk\\u013c\\u016bst apk\\u0101rt\\u0113j\\u0101 pasaul\\u0113 no laboratorij\\u0101m un nodara \\u013caunumu, ir maza iesp\\u0113jam\\u012bba un notiek reti, vai tas ir godapr\\u0101ta jaut\\u0101jums un dz\\u012bve uz pulvera mucas?\\n\\n"Man liekas, ka dz\\u012bvei uz pulvera mucas [pamat\\u0101], ja run\\u0101jam par epidemiolo\\u0123iju, ir fakts, ka m\\u0113s lidojam.\\n\\n\\nGlobaliz\\u0101cija un tas, ka m\\u0113s lidojam, un slim\\u012bbai ir iesp\\u0113ja ce\\u013cot no vienas valsts uz otru tik viegli, ir t\\u0101 pulvera muca. Tas, no kurienes tas v\\u012bruss n\\u0101cis, ir tikai avota jaut\\u0101jums. Ir pilna pasaule ar dz\\u012bvnieku izcelsmes v\\u012brusiem, kuri var infic\\u0113t cilv\\u0113ku. Un katrs no vi\\u0146iem, var b\\u016bt n\\u0101kamais kovids," atz\\u012bst D\\u0101vids Fr\\u012bdmanis. \\n\\n\\n"Ar Covid mums paveic\\u0101s, ka mirst\\u012bba nebija tik liela. Bija savulaik mums v\\u0113stur\\u0113 sp\\u0101\\u0146u gripa, tur bija trak\\u0101k. Tie\\u0161i fakts, ka m\\u0113s ce\\u013cojam pa visu pasauli, ir tas, kas to v\\u012brusu izplat\\u012bbu veicina. T\\u0101 ir t\\u0101 pulvera muca. Infekcijas avoti visu laiku rad\\u012bsies.\\n\\n\\n"No v\\u012brusa viedok\\u013ca m\\u0113s esam bar\\u012bba, un kur ir bar\\u012bba, tur b\\u016bs ar\\u012b pl\\u0113s\\u0113js. Un v\\u012bruss \\u0161aj\\u0101 gad\\u012bjum\\u0101 ir tas, kur\\u0161 ir pl\\u0113s\\u0113js, un rad\\u012bsies jauni un jauni patog\\u0113ni," nor\\u0101da D\\u0101vids Fr\\u012bdmanis.\\n\\n\\nDatu nopl\\u016bde: k\\u0101p\\u0113c tas iesp\\u0113jams un k\\u0101 ikdien\\u0101 sevi pasarg\\u0101t?\\n\\nNo laboratorij\\u0101m var nopl\\u016bst v\\u012brusi, bet var nopl\\u016bst ar\\u012b dati, un tas var notikt gan net\\u012b\\u0161\\u0101m, gan apzin\\u0101ti. \\u013baunpr\\u0101t\\u012bgu datu ieguvi un datu aizsardz\\u012bbu m\\u016bsdien\\u0101s var\\u0113tu sal\\u012bdzin\\u0101t ar nemit\\u012bgu ciklu - l\\u012bdzko \\u013caundari ieg\\u016bst datus, ir j\\u0101dom\\u0101 jauni pa\\u0146\\u0113mieni, k\\u0101 datus aizsarg\\u0101t, un tas atkal liek \\u013caundariem b\\u016bt rado\\u0161iem. Gan Latvij\\u0101, gan citur pasaul\\u0113 ir biju\\u0161i vair\\u0101ki gad\\u012bjumi, kad nopludin\\u0101ti konkr\\u0113tu personu vai ar aizsardz\\u012bbu saist\\u012bti dati. K\\u0101p\\u0113c tas k\\u013c\\u016bst iesp\\u0113jams un k\\u0101 varam ikdien\\u0101m pasarg\\u0101t pa\\u0161i sevi?\\n\\nIesp\\u0113ja vien\\u0101 br\\u012bd\\u012b piek\\u013c\\u016bt medic\\u012bnas iest\\u0101des pacientu fotogr\\u0101fij\\u0101m, apl\\u016bkot faktus par klientu braucieniem koplietojam\\u0101s automa\\u0161\\u012bn\\u0101s, nos\\u016bt\\u012bt k\\u0101dam inform\\u0101ciju par nodok\\u013cu nemaks\\u0101t\\u0101jiem vai pat izplat\\u012bt zi\\u0146as par izl\\u016bkdienestu darb\\u012bbu. \\u0160\\u0101di un citi pa\\u0146\\u0113mieni k\\u013c\\u016bst iesp\\u0113jami, ja net\\u012b\\u0161\\u0101m vai \\u013caunpr\\u0101t\\u012bgi tiek nopludin\\u0101ti dati. Piem\\u0113ram, viens no gad\\u012bjumiem guva pla\\u0161u starptautisku rezonansi - 2013. gad\\u0101 biju\\u0161ais ASV Centr\\u0101l\\u0101s izl\\u016bko\\u0161anas p\\u0101rvaldes un Nacion\\u0101l\\u0101s dro\\u0161\\u012bbas a\\u0123ent\\u016bras darbinieks Edvards Snoudens nodeva laikrakstiem slepenu inform\\u0101ciju par ASV izl\\u016bkdienestu izmantotaj\\u0101m datu ieg\\u016b\\u0161anas programm\\u0101m. Bet \\u0161oreiz st\\u0101sts ne tikai Snoudenu, bet ar\\u012b citiem datu nopludin\\u0101\\u0161anas gad\\u012bjumiem. Vai bie\\u017e\\u0101k sastopamies ar \\u013caunpr\\u0101t\\u012bg\\u0101m vai nejau\\u0161\\u0101m datu nopl\\u016bd\\u0113m, to att\\u0101lin\\u0101ti ierakst\\u012bt\\u0101 sarun\\u0101 skaidro Latvijas Inform\\u0101cijas tehnolo\\u0123iju dro\\u0161\\u012bbas incidentu nov\\u0113r\\u0161anas instit\\u016bcijas CERT.lv apdraud\\u0113jumu anal\\u012bti\\u0137is K\\u0101rlis Podi\\u0146\\u0161.'