Ep 459: Chateau Chasse-Spleen of AOC Moulis-en-Medoc with Jean Pierre Foubet, Managing Director

Published: Jan. 30, 2023, 5 p.m.

b'

Jean Pierre Foubet is the managing director of and chief communicator for Ch\\xe2teau Chasse-Spleen, the best estate in Moulis appellation of the M\\xe9doc. His wife, Celine Villars-Foubet is the owner of the estate, and together they have brought this ch\\xe2teau to new heights in quality and prestige.\\xa0

Photo: Jean Pierre Foubet. Credit: ROLAND COIFFE & ASSOCI\\xc9S

\\xa0

According to Jane Anson, in her book \\u201cInside Bordeaux\\u201d:

\\u201cOne of the star estates of Moulis, Chasse-Spleen is one of only two that I can think of that would have a fair chance of being recognized if the 1855 ranking were to be carried out today\\u201d

\\xa0

With their modern outlook, but respect for tradition, they have kept the wine on a path of constant improvement. They have transformed their ch\\xe2teau into a natural and man-made paradise, one that marries tradition with modernity in the form of art. From the barrel room, to the grounds, to the art gallery, and the accommodations for guests, Chasse-Spleen is a model for how to bring a ch\\xe2teau into the 21st century.

C\\xe9line and Jean-Pierre\\u2019s personalities, hospitality, and passion show through and it makes the experience of the wines so special, as I found out when I had the pleasure of staying there and spending an evening sipping the unbelievable wine, eating a delicious meal, and having so much fun and many, many laughs with the two of them in 2022.

\\xa0

Jean Pierre joins to tell us about Moulis, Chasse-Spleen, and explains some things to me that I always wanted to ask!

Photo: Jean Pierre Foubet and me, June 2022. Credit: WFNP

\\xa0

Here are some of topics Jean-Pierre and I discuss:

Jean-Pierre talks about the Moulis-en-M\\xe9doc appellation, of which he is the head:

  • The unique location at \\u201celevation\\u201d in M\\xe9doc, 17 meters
  • The soil diversity with gravel, clay, and composite soils, and how that yields a variety of wine styles
  • How practices must be altered in the vineyard, not in the cellar to handle climate change
  • How Listrac and Moulis differ, and why it makes sense that they eventually join as one appellation \\u2013 and how there are three very strong Chateaux (\\u201clocomotives\\u201d as Jean-Pierre calls them \\u2013Chasse-Spleen, Grand Poujeaux, Maucaillou) which are famed all over Europe and carry the reputation for the 34 other ch\\xe2teaux)


Map: AOC Moulis

\\xa0

Then we discuss Chasse-Spleen, an unofficial Grand Cru of the M\\xe9doc.

  • Jean-Pierre tells us about the early history of Chasse-Spleen, the English origins of its name and its history of women ownership. We discuss some of the harder times in Bordeaux and touch on the difficulties of upkeep of a ch\\xe2teau.

\\xa0

\\xa0

  • We talk about the terroir of Chasse-Spleen \\u2013 its size (175 ha) and its large percentage of gravel in the vineyard, and how it plants to the soil (it is 65% Cabernet Sauvignon because that reflects how much gravel they have, and 30% Merlot on clay-limestone soils).

\\xa0


Chateau Chasse-Spleen, Credit: Moulis.com

\\xa0

  • Jean Pierre tries to explain the difference between second wines and other cuvees to me. He does it successfully for Chasse-Spleen (L\\u2019Ermitage de Chasse Spleen is an Haut-M\\xe9doc \\u201cother\\u201d cuvee, and L\\u2019Oratoire de Chasse Spleen is a true second wine). We leave with the conclusion that I may never know what is actually a second wine from other chateau because no one really knows!

\\xa0

  • In the spirit of asking every question I\\u2019ve ever had about how Bordeaux works \\U0001f923\\U0001f923, I ask about Chasse-Spleen\\u2019s consultant, Eric Boissenot. He is very well respected and known to be a champion of terroir, but I ask Jean Pierre how difficult it is to make sure that Eric helps them to make wine that represents their land and doesn\\u2019t taste like the other properties for which he consults. We also discuss the famed consultant, Michel Rolland, who is famed for helping chateaux and wineries devise wines that would get 100-point scores from Robert Parker.

\\xa0

\\xa0

  • We discuss Chasse-Spleen\\u2019s wine and why it is so ageworthy. We talk about the 1855 classification, what it represents and what it doesn\\u2019t and how Chasse Spleen, despite being out of the ranking, sells far better than 5th growth Ch\\xe2teau Camensac, which the Villars -Foubet family also own. The conversation incorporates the decision for Chasse-Spleen to leave the Cru Bourgeois classification as well (many top ch\\xe2teaux left after the last round).

  • We discuss their refreshing, lively white wine (mostly S\\xe9millon) and Jean Pierre expresses skepticism about a potential M\\xe9doc Blanc appellation (I still think it\\u2019s a great idea!)

\\xa0

\\xa0

  • We end my talking about C\\xe9line and Jean Pierre\\u2019s love of art and how they have incorporated it into Chasse-Spleen in creative and magical ways \\u2013 from the life-like 3 meter high boots outside the Ch\\xe2teau, which help them remember that workers make the Ch\\xe2teau what it is, to the eclectic art collection, to the 3-D perspective painting in the chai (barrel room). If you are interested in staying at the Ch\\xe2teau, contact them here.


The Chai (pronounced shay) at Chasse-Spleen. Credit Chasse-Spleen

\\xa0

This was a great conversation with one of the top ch\\xe2teau of the M\\xe9doc. Once you try Chasse-Spleen, you\\u2019ll see why it is such a special wine, that rivals top Medoc wines.

\\xa0

A special thanks to Jean Pierre and C\\xe9line for their hospitality and again to the Wines of M\\xe9doc and Carole Vidal for the trip there last year, where I was able to visit Chasse Spleen.

\\xa0

_______________________________________________________________

I could not be happier to announce my partnership with Wine Access, once again. Wines Access is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting wines you can\\u2019t find locally. Every box you get from Wine Access is meticulous -- tasting notes with food and wine pairing, serving temperature suggestions, and perfectly stored wine. It\'s no wonder that Wine Access was rated the best wine club by New York Times Wirecutter and is the official partner and wine provider of The MICHELIN Guide. Check out my favorite wines on the page at www.wineaccess.com/normal, sign up for their daily emails, and join one of their wine clubs...AND get 10% your first order!

\\xa0

If you think our podcast is worth the price of a bottle or two of wine a year, please become a member of Patreon... you\'ll get even more great content, live interactions and classes!\\xa0

www.patreon.com/winefornormalpeople

\\xa0

To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:\\xa0www.winefornormalpeople.com/classes

\\xa0

'