EP 340: Managing As An Introverted, Anxious, and Autistic Boss: Taras Interview On The Rebel Therapist With Annie Schuessler

Published: June 8, 2021, 4:47 a.m.

b'In This Episode:\\n\\n\\n\\n* How I decide what roles to hire for (and why understanding our team structure is key)* When it\\u2019s time increase capacity by hiring versus fixing messy operations* Why you don\\u2019t want to clone yourself to get more done* How product and operations can overlap to creating some really exciting opportunities\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\nWhen I say I\\u2019m an introvert, I mean I\\u2019m a hardcore introvert.\\n\\n\\n\\nPeople don\\u2019t believe me when I say that because I\\u2019m loud and enthusiastic\\u2014but being loud and enthusiastic is not the same thing as being extroverted.\\n\\n\\n\\nIf you spend more than an hour with me in a social situation, you\\u2019ll see the life drain from my eyes as my internal batteries release their last burst of energy.\\n\\n\\n\\nI wish I was kidding\\u2014but I am not.\\n\\n\\n\\nI also happen to be an introvert surrounded by extroverts.\\n\\n\\n\\nI\\u2019m an internal processor surrounded by external processors. I\\u2019m an avoider of small talk surrounded by people who love small talk.\\n\\n\\n\\nIt\\u2019s a tricky situation.\\n\\n\\n\\nWho are these people? They\\u2019re my team members\\u2014and among them, my husband.\\n\\n\\n\\nSean and I often joke about how unfortunate it is that I\\u2019ve ended up with so many extroverts in my life. Not because there\\u2019s anything wrong with extroverts but because it can be exhausting!\\n\\n\\n\\nMy friend Annie Schuessler asked if I\\u2019d be willing to talk about managing a team as an introvert and I jumped at the chance. I\\u2019ve learned so much about team-building in general over the last 5 years but I\\u2019ve also learned a bunch about how to put guardrails in place around my own energy and bandwidth as I work with my teams.\\n\\n\\n\\nSince recording this interview, I\\u2019ve also started to talk publicly about how the way I work and relate to others is filtered through the lens of autism. So many of the things I\\u2019ve always thought of as a result of introversion and social anxiety are present because of my autism.\\n\\n\\n\\nI am introverted, I do have social anxiety, and I\\u2019m autistic.\\n\\n\\n\\nThat\\u2019s a pretty thick soup to be wading through as a manager.\\n\\n\\n\\nThe main reason I wanted to share that before you hear this interview is because my experiences as an introverted boss may be quite different from your experiences if you\\u2019re also an introverted boss.\\n\\n\\n\\nThe other reason reason I wanted to share that is because, before I had the framework of autism to make sense of my life, I was constantly working against myself in an effort to fix things I perceived as problems & deficiencies.\\n\\n\\n\\nWhile I\\u2019m still working to become a better manager and leader, I\\u2019m also looking much more objectively at how I can build structures that don\\u2019t require me to work against my nature quite so often. In so many ways, my autism is a strength for business-building, writing & podcasting, and team-building. But it takes work to embrace those strengths when they\\u2019re so different from what other people expect!\\n\\n\\n\\nAlright, here\\u2019s what you\\u2019re going to hear in this interview\\u2014Annie and I talk about how I find team members, why you need to know what you\\u2019re really hiring for before you start looking, how I\\u2019m onboarding new hires now, and why you don\\u2019t want to clone yourself.'