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b'The Nitty Gritty\\n\\n* What boundaries Charlie Gilkey and Angela Wheeler, founders of Productive Flourishing, set to coexist between business and life in a healthy way \\u2014 plus, some of the rules they follow, like no screens in the bedroom (or in the hot tub!)\\n* How their work styles differ \\u2014 and how they make space for both\\n* Why open communication is at the core of everything they do, including their relationship with each other and their team\\n\\nEver thought of starting a business with your spouse? It takes strong boundaries, vision, and understanding to do it right: something that Charlie Gilkey and Angela Wheeler, founders of Productive Flourishing, have refined over the last 10+ years of working together.\\nOf course, running a business and being in a relationship together results in unique challenges. How do you carve out time, outside of business, for your spouse when you work together all day? How do you determine who does what work \\u2014 in the business and at home? How do you make sure you aren\\u2019t driving each other crazy?\\nCharlie and Angela have run Productive Flourishing since 2007\\u2026 and in this episode of What Works, they share what they put in place to do their best work \\u2014 and show up as their best in the relationship, too.\\nWe release new episodes of What Works every week. Subscribe on iTunes so you never miss an episode.\\nCreating boundaries: when business and life co-exist\\n\\u201cThere isn\\u2019t a very clear line that this is life and this is business. They mix all day, every day. As things have shifted and changed in our life, things have shifted and changed in our business \\u2014 and who does what and when.\\u201d \\u2014 Angela Wheeler\\nWhile it may seem that there\\u2019s no separation between life and business for Charlie and Angela, there definitely is. But it\\u2019s not without effort: part of that distinction comes from the boundaries and rules they\\u2019ve created for coexisting both as a partnership in business and in life.\\n\\u201cWe have different ways of working,\\u201d Charlie says, \\u201cand it\\u2019s a constant challenge for us.\\u201d One of their differences? Charlie\\u2019s an early riser: he\\u2019s usually halfway through his workday flow when Angela wakes up.\\nOne of their rules here? Charlie doesn\\u2019t talk to Angela until she talks to him. \\u201cThen, I don\\u2019t stay in that weird relational hover zone to where it\\u2019s like: are we saying hi in the morning and being lovey-dovey?\\u201d he asks. \\u201cOr are you doing your thing and I\\u2019m doing my thing?\\u201d Knowing what to expect from one another, as they work and live together, helps them stay focused on doing the work.\\nAppreciating contrasting working styles and roles\\n\\u201cEquality is not equal time and it\\u2019s not equal results which can be a really sticky part of a relationship.\\u201d \\u2014 Charlie Gilkey\\nAs a society, we\\u2019re conditioned to believe that productivity means working hard from 9-5. But work doesn\\u2019t always fit into that 8-hour time slot. Many times, it expands past those hours. That\\u2019s been the case for Angela who\\u2019s consistently worked through a health journey that prevents her from working at the capacity she would like to.\\n\\u201cWhat am I able to contribute,\\u201d she asks, \\u201cversus what I wish I could contribute? It\\u2019s totally a mindset thing on my part but it\\u2019s also an honoring and a recognition on both of our parts.\\u201d Beyond handling the financial aspect of business and working on projects for Productive Flourishing, Angela also takes care of things around the house: something that has tremendous value for both their business and life \\u2014 but it\\u2019s not something that earns her a paycheck.\\nAs Charlie says, equality doesn\\u2019t mean equal time or effort. Understanding and appreciating this really required many open conversations between them to f...'