b'Nicole and Greg van der Gaast (CISO @ Scoutbee) discuss how his curiosity saved a company millions, structuring upstream security programs, getting speeding tickets in a Lamborghini, how Angelina Jolie inspired him to be a hacker, the downside of hiring unicorns, and the importance of rethinking information security. Purchase Greg\'s Book "Rethinking InfoSec" on Amazon.'