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This is the second part of a 2 part episode. For part 1 please visit:\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqi4JbpsbVc&feature=youtu.be\n\nMichael Shellenberger is an American author and former public relations professional whose writing has focused on the intersection of politics, the environment, climate change and nuclear power, as well as more recently on how he believes progressivism is linked to homelessness, drug addiction and mental illness.\nWatch the first TRIGGERnometry interview with him here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wbg6MAgMy4\n\nJoin our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Locals! https://triggernometry.locals.com/\n\nOR Support TRIGGERnometry Here:\n\nhttps://www.subscribestar.com/triggernometry\nhttps://www.patreon.com/triggerpod\nBitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5\n\nMusic by: Xentric | info@xentricapc.com | https://www.xentricapc.com/ | Channel ID: UCo_8zzSxKeL3arKWVuP8wdQ\n\nBuy Merch Here:\n\nhttps://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/\n\nAdvertise on TRIGGERnometry:\n\nmarketing@triggerpod.co.uk\n\nJoin the Mailing List:\n\nhttps://www.triggerpod.co.uk/sign-up/\n\nFind TRIGGERnometry on Social Media:\xa0\n\nhttps://twitter.com/triggerpod\nhttps://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/\nhttps://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/\n\nAbout TRIGGERnometry:\xa0\n\nStand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices