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Jasmine Reed has lived with chronic illness since she was 15. After years of seeing doctors and trying different treatments, she doesn\u2019t feel much better. Reed wishes others would believe she is in pain even though she doesn\u2019t look sick. Chronic pain doesn\u2019t necessarily come from a specific external cause, so it\u2019s hard to treat and hard to prove to others. But that doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s not real. Countless patients suffer from chronic pain with little relief. There\u2019s a lot we can learn from hearing these chronic pain stories that can help us develop greater empathy and find solutions. In this podcast episode, we talk to chronic pain experts about treatments and chronic pain\u2019s connection to the opioid epidemic. We also talk to neuroscientists about pain patterns in the brain and how we can help to heal ourselves.\n\nPodcast Guests:\nJasmine Reed, Chronic illness. \n\nDaniel Clauw, Director, Chronic Pain and Fatigue Research Center, University of Michigan.\n\nTor Wager, Professor of Neuroscience, Dartmouth College.