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Here I get to interview Gav Thompson from the Do Lectures Podcast. And it\\u2019s such an amazing chat.

Gav almost became an actor, was keen to get into a boy band at one point, but then worked in adland, and ended up going client-side, working as a CMO for one of the UK\\u2019s largest phone networks.

It was there that he realized something.

Many people out there think that there are only two options in life. Either do good and work for an NGO. OR do well and work in business. But as Gav puts it in his Do Lecture - what about And And.

I couldn\\u2019t agree more.

Here Gav and I talk about how you can change the machine from the inside. And he gives us some pretty incredible examples of how he managed to do just this, in the biggest phone network in the UK.

He talks to us about taking his skill-set, and turning it into something that he wouldn\\u2019t have naturally done, how he mashed them all together, and got to a solution that impacted a load of people. It\\u2019s inspiring.

We also hear about being amazing despite\\u2026

We all know it\\u2019s not easy to make a difference. But here Gav shows us that it is possible, what is possible and just how impactful it can be.

So grab a coffee, or throw on those running shoes, and get stuck in.

To check out the Do Lectures, click here.

To check out Gav\\u2019s Do Lecture, click here.

To check out the Do Lectures podcast, click here.

To learn more about Gav, check him out here.