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Jordan talks to Maggie Nelson about hope, about hitting one\'s threshold, and about trying to respond to current events in On Freedom without dating the text.

Maggie Nelson is the author of several books of poetry and prose, most recently On Freedom. She\'s also the author of the New York Times bestseller and National Book Critics Circle Award winner The Argonauts. She teaches at the University of Southern California and lives in Los Angeles.

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