106 / What Men And Women Need To Know About Working Together with Joanne Lipman
I firmly believe that gender expectations damage everyone, and that in order for ALL of us to achieve equity, it\u2019s going to require not just women to fight for what\u2019s right, but everyone.\nBut men often share that they feel like they\u2019re walking on eggshells and are afraid to say and do the wrong things. While I don\u2019t feel sorry for them, I do have empathy. And I\u2019m not talking about the a-holes here, but the men who want to be part of the solution.\nWhich is why I invited Joanne Lipman on the show. Joanne is the author of the national bestseller, That\u2019s What She Said: What Men and Women Need to Know About Working Together, former editor-in-chief at USA Today and Conde Nast, and referral from Adam Grant (who I\u2019m professionally obsessed with). She drops some serious (and well researched) knowledge!\nWe\u2019ll all get where we want to go faster, if we work together. Good men can\u2019t stay silent and a little extra empathy across the board wouldn\u2019t hurt anyone. \u201cWoman\u2019s Work\u201d will be what WE make it, so let's work together to make it something amazing.\nP.S. This is a great listen for anyone of any gender, especially those who are leading others.\nTo follow Joanne you can visit her website at www.joannelipman.com or on IG @joannelipman. And you can buy her book That\u2019s What She Said on Amazon.\nClick here to pre-order Validation Is For Parking, which will be released on October 4th!\nTo learn more about what we are up to outside of this podcast, visit us at NicoleKalil.com