b'This is a 30-minute conversation between Seth Andrews and YouTube activist Steve Shives, recorded recently at the Pennsylvania Atheist/Humanist Conference in Harrisburg, PA. \\xa0
Video of this conversation can be seen here: \\xa0https://youtu.be/2Q4Yv3rgv-0
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