Matt is joined by journalist, podcast host, and cofounder of Semafor, Ben Smith, to discuss how last night's dispiriting debate will affect CNN and the TV news landscape as we move towards the 2024 election. Will the debate revive CNN and give it the story it's been looking for? They also take a look at the broader state of TV news as we exit the cable news era and wonder how many of these waning news networks can survive in the streaming era (03:12). Matt finishes the show with an opening weekend box office prediction for \u2018A Quiet Place: Day One\u2019 (26:00).\n\nFor a 20 percent discount on Matt\u2019s Hollywood insider newsletter, \u2018What I\u2019m Hearing ...,\u2019 click this link: puck.news/thetown\nEmail us your thoughts! thetown@spotify.com\n\nHost: Matt Belloni\nGuest: Ben Smith\n\nProducers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez\nTheme Song: Devon Renaldo\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices