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Lucy Dallas and Michael Caines are joined by Dennis Duncan, the author of \\u2018Index, A History of the\\u2019, to discuss how we navigate the contents between books\' covers, taking in alphabets, concordances, ancient search engines and much more; What is Substack: a publishing start-up or a reboot of a nineteenth-century literary idea?; and the writer and translator Miranda France discusses a new book by the famed psychogeographer Iain Sinclair, which takes us to Peru, in the footsteps of his great-grandfather, who made a fascinating and, to us, troubling expedition to the Upper Amazon region in 1891.

\\u2018Index, A History of the\\u2019 by Dennis Duncan

\\u2018The Gold Machine: In the tracks of the mule dancers\\u2019 by Iain Sinclair

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