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This episode is a conversation with Iain McGilchrist, a psychiatrist and writer, who originally started at Oxford as a literary scholar. Dissatisfied with literary criticism, having published Against Criticism in 1982, McGilchrist sought greater philosophical understanding of human experience by retraining in medicine and he went on to become a Consultant Psychiatrist at the Maudsley Hospital in London. I heard McGilchrist talk on the Sam Harris podcast and was immediately fascinated by his ideas on the way the different brain hemispheres work both separately and in collaboration. In his book, The Master and the Emissary, McGilchrist explores the huge library of science in this field, much of which is in German and French and much of which has been ignored by English-language scientists. In fact, McGilchrist was initially warned off studying the ways in which the different hemispheres process information, given that the topic was considered pop or junk science. But, thankfully, he stuck at it and has given us a fascinating exploration of how to think more deeply about the brain, consciousness and how they affect the real world. Since our conversation, McGilchrist has published a further book on the topic titled The Matter with Things. There was no way we could do the body of his work justice in the short conversation we had, but I hope we were able to open the door on this incredible topic and that listeners will be inspired to seek out his books to learn more. Hardback internationally https://www.amazon.com/Matter-Things-Brains-Delusions-Unmaking/dp/1914568060/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1638197964&sr=8-1 (Amazon.com) and https://www.bookdepository.com/Matter-With-Things-Iain-McGilchrist/9781914568060 (The Book Depository ) Hardback UK only https://channelmcgilchrist.com/order-book/ (Channel McGilchrist ), https://www.amazon.co.uk/Matter-Things-Brains-Delusions-Unmaking/dp/1914568060/ref=sr_1_1?crid=MVUEC3JBP1XJ&keywords=the+matter+with+things+iain+mcgilchrist&qid=1638197871&sprefix=The+Matter+with%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-1 (Amazon UK) and other booksellers nationwide Kindle on https://www.amazon.co.uk/Matter-Things-Brains-Delusions-Unmaking-ebook/dp/B09KY5B3QL/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1638197871&sr=8-1 (www.amazon.co.uk) and https://www.amazon.com/Matter-Things-Brains-Delusions-Unmaking-ebook/dp/B09KY5B3QL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33DP5CE4A2U1W&keywords=the+matter+with+things+iain+mcgilchrist&qid=1638197964&sprefix=The+Matter+with+Things+Iain%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-1 (www.amazon.com)