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b'Down the pipe and into the Flower Kingdom, Ben and Jess are talking all things Mario today with the release of \\u2018Super Mario Bros. Wonder.\\u2019 They begin by discussing their histories with the \\u2018Super Mario Bros.\\u2019 franchise (0:00) and its evolution in 2D/3D gameplay (12:00). Later on, they chat about their likes and dislikes of the game (30:00) before producer Devon Renaldo joins to deliver a hot take on Nintendo\\u2019s direction, the company\\u2019s upcoming releases, and the successor to the Switch (1:09:00).\\nHosts: Ben Lindbergh and Jessica Clemons\\nProducer: Devon Renaldo\\nAdditional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices'