When Janet Yellen Talks, Why Do People Still Listen? Ep. 188

Published: Aug. 25, 2016, 12:13 a.m.


\n \t* The price of gold fell about $12/oz today; silver prices were down another .28
\n \t* Both metals have been falling since recent new yearly highs
\n \t* Gold, though is not very much below the highs
\n \t* The real carnage has been in the mining stocks, particularly today; today was one of the biggest down days I've seen all year
\n \t* The GDX index was down just over 7%
\n \t* Some of the mining stocks were down 10% or more on a very small move in the price of gold and silver
\n \t* In fact, we've wiped out the last 2 months of gains in the mining stocks
\n \t* What is the catalyst for this?
\n \t* Early this morning, around 8:30 - 9:00 New York time before the U.S. Stock Market opened
\n \t* No news - gold was up 1 or 2 bucks...
\n \t* All of a sudden a huge sell order hits and gold drops about 7 or 8 bucks on no news
\n \t* Somebody decided to dump a lot of gold on the market, at one time and didn't really care what the execution price was
\n \t* Considering how large the sell order was, it didn't really knock the market down very much
\n \t* But the gold stock market was a different story
\n \t* It kind of made me think that the rationale for getting gold to drop was the impact it might have on the gold stocks themselves
\n \t* My guess is that a lot of people who were running with stops, that's when you have an order to sell below the market to try to protect your profits
\n \t* My guess is that they hit a lot of stops today in a lot of these mining stocks and maybe, some of the bigger players were able to buy more gold stocks based on the shake-out that was created
\n \t* By a relatively modest drop in the price of gold
\n \t* Meanwhile, the dollar didn't rise very much today; the downtrend still seems to be firmly in place
\n \t* What everybody seems to be focusing on is the Fed
\n \t* People are worried about what Janet Yellen might say on Friday
\n \t* The Fed's Jackson Hole Conference gets underway tomorrow and Janet Yellen speaks on Friday
\n \t* I guess the thoughts are: "Maybe she will say something hawkish."
\n \t* Maybe she'll say the U.S economy is strengthening and the Fed is getting closer to meeting its objectives
\n \t* And that a rate hike is possible in the near future
\n \t* So what? That's what she always says.
\n \t* Now she's not going to come out and say, "We're raising rates for sure. We're moving rates in September."
\n \t* The only thing she could say is that a rate hike is still possible
\n \t* That is no different than anything that she has said in the past
\n \t* So people being nervous about a possible unprecedented hawkish statement makes no sense
\n \t* Even in Janet were to say she is raising rates in September and she followed through a rate hike
\n \t* So what?
\n \t* It's not going to hurt gold and it's not going to help the dollar
\n \t* Expected rate hikes were already baked into the dramatic rise of the dollar in 2014-2015
\n \t* Gold declined from a high of almost $1900 to a low of $1050 because it was discounting all the rate hikes that are never going to materialize
\n \t* Even if we get one or two more, that is nothing compared to market expectations
\n \t* Even if we get a couple of small rate hikes, even if we get to .75 or even 1%
\n \t* That is still not enough to hurt gold or help the dollar
\n \t* When are people going to figure out it doesn't matter what the Fed does
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