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This members-only episode was originally published on September 20, 2020 and moved to this feed for full member access.

President Trump will not shut up about voting by mail, repeatedly asserting that the system that has been used in elections prior is \u201crigged.\u201d Meanwhile, Republicans have tried endlessly to block certain states from making it happen. In this new bonus episode of The New Abnormal, Senator Brian Schatz (D-HI) explains the motivations behind the constant anti-mail-in ballot rhetoric and it\u2019s deeper than Trump trying to prevent Americans from voting. \u201cReally, what they want to do is two things: They want to undermine the confidence voters have in the election. And they want to undermine the confidence that people have in the post office,\u201d he tells Rick Wilson and Molly Jong-Fast. Why? Privatization and manipulation, aka \u201cget people to believe that this simply cannot be done\u201d so they give up and continue to yell at each other on Twitter. But there\u2019s something that Americans can do and that\u2019s voting right away. \u201cAs soon as you get the damn thing, turn it right around,\u201d says Schatz. There\u2019s also another thing that voters can do, he says, and he failed at it in 2016. It\u2019s taking social risks to stick up for Biden \u201cin ways that are actually going to cause discomfort at the human level between people that care about each other, because the other side did that.\u201d He tells Rick and Molly exactly where he himself went wrong. Plus! Schatz shares why Facebook will almost always take Trump\u2019s side. And the gang trio discuss why Kansas and American \u201chousewives\u201d there are more progressive than we think.

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