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Shermer and Mac Donald discuss: race as America\\u2019s original sin \\u2022 civil rights \\u2022 equality vs. equity \\u2022 disparate impact \\u2022 overt racism vs. systemic racism \\u2022 why Blacks make less money, own fewer and lower quality homes, work in less prestigious jobs, hold fewer seats in the Senate and House of Representatives, run fewer Fortune 500 companies \\u2022 race and science, medicine, classical music, opera, Juilliard, Swan Lake, museums, and the law \\u2022 crime and mass shootings \\u2022 George Floyd and race riots.

Heather Mac Donald is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal, and a New York Times bestselling author. She is a recipient of the 2005 Bradley Prize. Mac Donald\\u2019s work at City Journal has covered a range of topics, including higher education, immigration, policing, homelessness and homeless advocacy, criminal-justice reform, and race relations. Her writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, and The New Criterion.\\xa0Her new book is When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens Lives.