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On his 68^th birthday, Kevin Kelly began to write down for his young adult children some things he had learned about life that he wished he had known earlier. To his surprise, Kelly had more to say than he thought, and kept adding to the advice over the years, compiling a life\\u2019s wisdom into the pages of his book: Excellent Advice for Living.

Shermer and Kelly discuss: protopian progress \\u2022 ChatGPT \\u2022\\xa0artificial intelligence; an existential threat? \\u2022 evolution \\u2022 cultural progress \\u2022 self-driving cars \\u2022 innovation \\u2022\\xa0social media \\u2022 putting an end to war \\u2022\\xa0compound interest and the long term effect of small changes \\u2022\\xa0why you don\\u2019t want to be a billionaire \\u2022 beliefs and reason \\u2022 setting unreasonable goals \\u2022\\xa0persistence as key to success \\u2022 probabilities and statistics, not algebra and calculus \\u2022\\xa0investing: buy and hold \\u2022 how to fully become yourself.

Kevin Kelly helped launch and edit Wired magazine. He has written for the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, among many other publications. His previous books include What Technology Wants, and The Inevitable, a New York Times bestseller. He is known for his technological optimism. Currently he is a Senior Maverick at Wired and lives in Pacifica, California.