Rick talks with author Robert Kagan about anti-liberalism and its resurgence in the United States. They explore the historical resistance to individual rights, the rise of white Christian nationalism, and the potential global implications of a second Trump administration.\nYou can read Robert Kagan\u2019s columns in The Washington Post and you can buy his book \u201cRebellion: How Antiiberalism Is Tearing America Apart \u2013 Again\u201d at fine bookstores everywhere.\nFollow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com.\nJoin the fight with Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow us on X at @ProjectLincoln.\nAnd please like, rate and review this podcast, thank you!\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices